And that is exactly the reason why I think that some people in the Bezirksregierung are completely against NRN.zunsel hat geschrieben: The decision that only CAT C and 757 is allowed was made on teh first day, bexx wanted to come with the TU154, exactly valid from 10.00 a.m.
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Roel
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ML
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Ich würde nicht immer direkt auf die Bezirksregierung losgehen, die Ihre Sache so schlecht nun wirklich nicht macht. Bisher wurde von dort eigentlich immer alles sehr ordnungsgemäß abgewickelt und wenn dort am Tag der Landung der Tupolev eine Beschwerde eingeht ist es sogar die Pflicht der Bezierksregierung zu handeln.
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But the limitation to these aircrafts is already written in the first permission out of 2001. I don' know, if there was an approval for other planes meanwhile. But I Do not believe this, because the approval for other aircrafts than those up to class C is depending on some conditions, that have to be fullfilled before.
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Thank you for your clear and real statement! That's it!!! Our NRW-air traffic-politics are the worst over the world!Roel hat geschrieben:it's completely clear that there are some people in the bezirksregierung that are very anti-nrn! This action is bull-shit! They just don't tolerate aircrafts in which companies can make real profit, and in that way they are trying to knock NRN down. Those foolish people!
Can anyone tell me which parties have a majority in the bz. regierung? I think that are the SPD and the Grunen, aren't they? Those f*cking left-wing anti-aircraft politicians!
Change the majority in NRW!
Yours sincerely, Ludger
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I believe this is completely the fault of Bexx air themselfs.
They want to fly a cat II noise certified plane into a field that only allows cat III. They (Bexx) announced they would come with 146's... that good, they are allowed to. With the A320? they are allowed to as well (both are Chapter 3 i believe). Let them come with a plane that's allowed to land and there is no problem at all. If you do try to come with the TU154 and get turned down... they shouldn't complain because from the start they could have known it was not allowed.
Also look at it from this side: We all know that noise is an issue at NRN! (like on most western airfields) People will hear a TU154 much beter then the A320 or BAE146. Therefore you will get more complains. In my opinnion allowing this noisy (beautifull, but noisy) aircraft into NRN hurts the airport more then it does them good. They (NRN) can't keep saying they will only allow the most noise friendly aircraft, and therefore they will not produce a conciderable noise pollution, while at the same time they do allow flights to be operated by a 154?
Just my 2 eurocents,
Robert
They want to fly a cat II noise certified plane into a field that only allows cat III. They (Bexx) announced they would come with 146's... that good, they are allowed to. With the A320? they are allowed to as well (both are Chapter 3 i believe). Let them come with a plane that's allowed to land and there is no problem at all. If you do try to come with the TU154 and get turned down... they shouldn't complain because from the start they could have known it was not allowed.
Also look at it from this side: We all know that noise is an issue at NRN! (like on most western airfields) People will hear a TU154 much beter then the A320 or BAE146. Therefore you will get more complains. In my opinnion allowing this noisy (beautifull, but noisy) aircraft into NRN hurts the airport more then it does them good. They (NRN) can't keep saying they will only allow the most noise friendly aircraft, and therefore they will not produce a conciderable noise pollution, while at the same time they do allow flights to be operated by a 154?
Just my 2 eurocents,
Robert
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Bexx
I think Bexx's Tupolev-flights have to divert to other nearby airports like DUS, CGN, MST or EIN. If Bexx is not going to operate their flights out of one of these airports, I think they will lose a lot of customers. Personally I think that EIN is a good alternative because the airport is not as big as DUS or CGN (and not so expensive as those two) and is better situated as MST. But..... I hope that Bexx eventually will stay at NRN....
